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Hana's cacti
- Tom in Tucson
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Re: Hana's cacti
Yesterday was a good sunshine day. It was mid winter but the temperature in the greenhouse reached to 27 'C in the afternoon.
I could see some flowers of Uebelmannia.
I could see some flowers of Uebelmannia.
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- Aztekium123
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Re: Hana's cacti
Your greenhouse is really great, the plants are growing very well~
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One of my Onzuka seedlings shows this pattern. Now I know what to call it.
Frank, what do you think would be the outcome of crossing Onzuka tricostata with nudum tricostata? As long as I get a good percentage of three rib plants I won't complain, but it would be nice to see some interesting patterning! I plan on making this cross this summer as both are now flowering size. Also, have you heard of Superkabuto ''gold''? It has the gold coloured felting instead of white. I got some seeds from this plant but some of them look like hybrids to me (raised ribs) some look like asterias. (flat ribs) I think the crossing and back-crossing between species is becoming confusing and disordered. There will be a time when habitat collected seed of Astrophytum with field numbers will increase in value?
Re: Hana's cacti
G'morning Mike,
Body flecking of Onzuka has some issues. Since original Onzuka started from just one-plant, various forms of myriostigma were mixed later. Even if it was Onzuka x Onzuka, seedlings show various forms which are many normal flecking myriostigma and some Onzuka.
Seedlings of nudum x Onzuka or Onzuka x nudum may be mixed as Onzuka, normal myriostigma flecking and nudum.
I do not know Superkabuto "gold". I know superkaboto "not white".
I am quite sure "Raised ribs" asterias is not a true asterias. It is mixed some other Astrophytum species.
Asterias dose not recieve pollen of any other Astrophytum. If you used an asterias as a pollen reciever (mother), this type of mistake will never be happened.
Astrophytum are CITES Appendix I species. Is it possible to collect seeds of CITES Appendix I in habitat? I am not sure.
Frank
I think 3-ribs gene is positive and so you may get a good percentage of 3-ribs seedlings if both parents were 3-ribs plants.what do you think would be the outcome of crossing Onzuka tricostata with nudum tricostata? As long as I get a good percentage of three rib plants I won't complain, but it would be nice to see some interesting patterning! I plan on making this cross this summer as both are now flowering size. Also, have you heard of Superkabuto ''gold''? It has the gold coloured felting instead of white. I got some seeds from this plant but some of them look like hybrids to me (raised ribs) some look like asterias. (flat ribs) I think the crossing and back-crossing between species is becoming confusing and disordered. There will be a time when habitat collected seed of Astrophytum with field numbers will increase in value?
Body flecking of Onzuka has some issues. Since original Onzuka started from just one-plant, various forms of myriostigma were mixed later. Even if it was Onzuka x Onzuka, seedlings show various forms which are many normal flecking myriostigma and some Onzuka.
Seedlings of nudum x Onzuka or Onzuka x nudum may be mixed as Onzuka, normal myriostigma flecking and nudum.
I do not know Superkabuto "gold". I know superkaboto "not white".
I am quite sure "Raised ribs" asterias is not a true asterias. It is mixed some other Astrophytum species.
Asterias dose not recieve pollen of any other Astrophytum. If you used an asterias as a pollen reciever (mother), this type of mistake will never be happened.
Astrophytum are CITES Appendix I species. Is it possible to collect seeds of CITES Appendix I in habitat? I am not sure.
Frank
- Tom in Tucson
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Re: Hana's cacti
As far as Superkabuto "gold" is concerned This form of Astrophytum asterias has many gold regions.Hanazono wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 am G'morning Mike,
I think 3-ribs gene is positive and so you may get a good percentage of 3-ribs seedlings if both parents were 3-ribs plants.what do you think would be the outcome of crossing Onzuka tricostata with nudum tricostata? As long as I get a good percentage of three rib plants I won't complain, but it would be nice to see some interesting patterning! I plan on making this cross this summer as both are now flowering size. Also, have you heard of Superkabuto ''gold''? It has the gold coloured felting instead of white. I got some seeds from this plant but some of them look like hybrids to me (raised ribs) some look like asterias. (flat ribs) I think the crossing and back-crossing between species is becoming confusing and disordered. There will be a time when habitat collected seed of Astrophytum with field numbers will increase in value?
Body flecking of Onzuka has some issues. Since original Onzuka started from just one-plant, various forms of myriostigma were mixed later. Even if it was Onzuka x Onzuka, seedlings show various forms which are many normal flecking myriostigma and some Onzuka.
Seedlings of nudum x Onzuka or Onzuka x nudum may be mixed as Onzuka, normal myriostigma flecking and nudum.
I do not know Superkabuto "gold". I know superkaboto "not white".
I am quite sure "Raised ribs" asterias is not a true asterias. It is mixed some other Astrophytum species.
Asterias dose not recieve pollen of any other Astrophytum. If you used an asterias as a pollen reciever (mother), this type of mistake will never be happened.
Astrophytum are CITES Appendix I species. Is it possible to collect seeds of CITES Appendix I in habitat? I am not sure.
Frank
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G'morning Tom,
Thanks for your information. The photo of asterias you indicated is a hanazono kabuto. I have several matured hanazono kabutos. The colour of their flecking is as same as the asterias on the photo. I did not know the colour is called "gold".
I have many matured super kabutos which flecking colour is similar to the asterias indicated by you.
I call them "not white" super kabutos.
Two photos are attached for your information. They are matured super kabutos and the mutation of flecking has been completed.
Frank
Thanks for your information. The photo of asterias you indicated is a hanazono kabuto. I have several matured hanazono kabutos. The colour of their flecking is as same as the asterias on the photo. I did not know the colour is called "gold".
I have many matured super kabutos which flecking colour is similar to the asterias indicated by you.
I call them "not white" super kabutos.
Two photos are attached for your information. They are matured super kabutos and the mutation of flecking has been completed.
Frank
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Thanks for information. I got the superkabuto ''gold'' seeds from Ukraine. I don't know if they came from the same seed pod. Some have perfectly flat ribs and some have slightly raised ribs and some look like superkabuto white, but if they all came from the same pod they will all be hybrids even if they look like asterias. I have a plant which came from seeds named asterias ''multipunctata'' It has many very fine spots which do not touch each other. I have crossed it with another similar plant so maybe I can make my own new line of ''white'' asterias.Hanazono wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:30 am G'morning Mike,
I think 3-ribs gene is positive and so you may get a good percentage of 3-ribs seedlings if both parents were 3-ribs plants.what do you think would be the outcome of crossing Onzuka tricostata with nudum tricostata? As long as I get a good percentage of three rib plants I won't complain, but it would be nice to see some interesting patterning! I plan on making this cross this summer as both are now flowering size. Also, have you heard of Superkabuto ''gold''? It has the gold coloured felting instead of white. I got some seeds from this plant but some of them look like hybrids to me (raised ribs) some look like asterias. (flat ribs) I think the crossing and back-crossing between species is becoming confusing and disordered. There will be a time when habitat collected seed of Astrophytum with field numbers will increase in value?
Body flecking of Onzuka has some issues. Since original Onzuka started from just one-plant, various forms of myriostigma were mixed later. Even if it was Onzuka x Onzuka, seedlings show various forms which are many normal flecking myriostigma and some Onzuka.
Seedlings of nudum x Onzuka or Onzuka x nudum may be mixed as Onzuka, normal myriostigma flecking and nudum.
I do not know Superkabuto "gold". I know superkaboto "not white".
I am quite sure "Raised ribs" asterias is not a true asterias. It is mixed some other Astrophytum species.
Asterias dose not recieve pollen of any other Astrophytum. If you used an asterias as a pollen reciever (mother), this type of mistake will never be happened.
Astrophytum are CITES Appendix I species. Is it possible to collect seeds of CITES Appendix I in habitat? I am not sure.
Frank
You said....''Asterias dose not recieve pollen of any other Astrophytum. If you used an asterias as a pollen reciever (mother), this type of mistake will never be happened.''
Does this mean that If I have a plant which accepts pollen from another species, it is not asterias even if it looks like one?
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G'afternoon Mike,
Frank
I do not know now but arond 300 types asterias including cultivars seeds were available 20 years ago in Japan. There were many white kabutos but one of them was ISW. ISW means Iwata Snow White which was developed by Mr Iwata. Super kabuto and Miracle kabuto show flecking mutation but ISW does not. ISWis really white and white dots do not touch eachother.I have a plant which came from seeds named asterias ''multipunctata'' It has many very fine spots which do not touch each other. I have crossed it with another similar plant so maybe I can make my own new line of ''white'' asterias.
Yes it does. A true asterias does not receive pollen of any other Astrophytum species which is quite common idear among asterias collecters. If you want to make an asterias related hybrid, you have to use asterias as pollen supplier.Does this mean that If I have a plant which accepts pollen from another species, it is not asterias even if it looks like one?
Frank
Re: Hana's cacti
Although July is mid of winter, I can see some flowering buds on a Ferocactus glaucescence. The cactus was on a shady ground and was moved to sunny spot after the potting last year. I have never seen flowers of the cactus yet.
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Inside of greenhouse is very quiet but many Gymnocalycium species have formed new spines. The photo is one of them, cardenasianum.
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The photo is a Gymnocalycium spegazzinii which has also formed new spines. This cactus stopped growing 2 years ago and I found all roots were rotted out. Fortunately the rotting did not reach to the body and I repotted.
It seems the cactus has recoverd well and the pot has been tight. I will repot it next spring.
I bought seeds and sowed in 2003. The curret size is 14 cm in diameter currently.
It seems the cactus has recoverd well and the pot has been tight. I will repot it next spring.
I bought seeds and sowed in 2003. The curret size is 14 cm in diameter currently.
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It is told that the life of asterias cultivars is around 20 years. Many of my super kabutos are almost 20 years old but it seems they can live longer.
The photo is a super kabuto, 19 years old which has started to turn to kikko form.
The photo is a super kabuto, 19 years old which has started to turn to kikko form.
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The photo 1 is an Astrophytum myriostigma cv Onzuka which I have to operate next spring. Since I got seeds from my friend, the history of seeds were unknown.
I operated a similar one 2 years ago. The photo 2 is current bottom and photo 3 is the current top.
The offset on photo 2 is around 3 cm in diameter.
I operated a similar one 2 years ago. The photo 2 is current bottom and photo 3 is the current top.
The offset on photo 2 is around 3 cm in diameter.
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The post of today is an Astrophytum hybrid which is created by myself.
Pollen receiver: ornatum v nudum
Pollen supplier: myriostigma cv Onzuka
Both cacti have Onzuka flecking and small spines
The hybrid on 1st photo has 5 ribs and 2nd one has 7 ribs. I have not seen their flowers yet.
Pollen receiver: ornatum v nudum
Pollen supplier: myriostigma cv Onzuka
Both cacti have Onzuka flecking and small spines
The hybrid on 1st photo has 5 ribs and 2nd one has 7 ribs. I have not seen their flowers yet.
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