T's spring / summer collection

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:27 pm

Thanks everyone!

vlani wrote:Nice garden you got Tony

I think I've seen two misslabels.

Your Mamm. pylcaiensis is what in Mesa Garden list comes as "spinosissima with yellow spines". I do not know if it ever had other name.

And your Mamm. elongata looks like 'Nymph' hybrid - elongata X microhelia. Elongata is slim and does not come with any other but washed-out yellow flower color.

Sorry for been annoying

Annoy away,

Im always happy to correct labels.

I got the name 'pylcaiensis' somewhere years ago, I cant remember where. So I should just call it M. spinosissima 'yellow spines'?
Re. the M. elongata, so this one growing in my moms cactus garden is the real elongata then? I know there are alot of different forms, I just thought it was another one of those.

Post by **daiv** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:22 pm

That is just a spelling error.

Mammillaria spinosissima subsp. pilcayensis

Is sometimes just M. pilcayensis.

vlani · Post by **vlani** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:48 am

Yes pilcayensis is the right spelling, but the wrong plant

I think this one in Preston-Mafham book called "crassior". It does not look like regular spinossissima mainly for been yellow, but even less like pilcayensis.

vlani · Post by **vlani** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:28 am

The follow up. Pilcayensis at the left

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:06 pm

Nice group shot, Tony!
Foreground, background, above ground, below ground...all looks good from here

Andy_CT · Post by **Andy_CT** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:23 pm

Love the group shot

Post by **daiv** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:19 pm

I see the difference!

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:05 pm

So you think my plant is just a normal M. spinosissima Vlani and not ssp. pilcayensis then?

vlani · Post by **vlani** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:28 pm

I do not know what it is

Not pilcayensis for sure, but not that normal one either

Mya be this one has slipped out without any good name, or may be use crassior as invalid name

I think it is regarded as a form of normal spinosissima, but I'm happy with "yellow spinosissima from Brack" myself with no further investigation into it.

Yes and the second elongata is good. They come in all shades of yellow to brown spines, and there is a very nice "echinaria" form or var that has stable centrals and looks much different because of that.

Bill in SC · Post by **Bill in SC** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:19 am

Nice group, Tony! I have MANY of the same plants that are blooming, or have already done so. Nice color indeed!

Bill in SC

Cereusly · Post by **Cereusly** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:08 am

Wow, Tony, that's quite a show

. . . and if I had to pick my favorite it would be the Turbinicarpus schmiedickeanus ssp. schwarzii. Cereusly

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:04 pm

Thanks guys!
Another installment today.

Escobaria missouriensis from Bill.

mammilaria heyderi

mammilaria matudae

Came to me as Rebutia frankiana, now just another Rebutia canigueralii I guess.

Rebutia flavistyla

Echinocereus knippelianus, lotsa seed me thinks.

Mammilaria compressa.

One of my fav's

Parodia werneri

Eriosyce senilis, this clump is not a very prolific bloomer, but I'll take what I can get.

Have a great day.

Post by **CoronaCactus** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:55 pm

Great show man!

frankiana or canigueralii = same plant ?

I did not realise this, which seems odd to me, as i have both and the frankiana heads are much bigger than those of canigueralii...maybe it's not frankiana

peter · Post by **peter** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:50 pm

Very nice installment, Tony!

iann · Post by **iann** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:42 pm

I believe that M. crassior is considered a synonym of M. spinosissima ssp tepoxtlana. Ssp pilcayensis is fairly easy to spot by having a spray of spines difficult to separate into radials and centrals. Ssp spinosissima has obvious centrals as well as quite a lot of shorter thinner radials. I wouldn't get too attached to the colour but the centrals tend to be reddish contrasting with very pale radials. Ssp tepoxtlana also has obvious centrals and radials but less of them and not so coloured.