Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
- mmcavall
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Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
I mixed up some seeds and have no idea of the ID of this Mammillaria.
Any input will be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Any input will be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Last edited by mmcavall on Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
M rubrograndis?
Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
I would suggest Mammillaria perbella
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
The flowers are a little small, but the spines look like Mammillaria deherdtiana
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
Thanks Lucy, Tom and anttisep!
Until now ... no definitive ID.
Anttisep why are you unsure about rubrograndis? And what do you think about deherdtiana?
Tom: I agree; but it shouldn't have more radials?
Lucy: I am between deherdtiana and rubrograndis because the flowers are bigger than the average Mammillaria flowers
. Too big for perbella, I think.
Well..
Maybe I should come back with better pictures of the spines
Thanks for commenting
Until now ... no definitive ID.
Anttisep why are you unsure about rubrograndis? And what do you think about deherdtiana?
Tom: I agree; but it shouldn't have more radials?
Lucy: I am between deherdtiana and rubrograndis because the flowers are bigger than the average Mammillaria flowers
. Too big for perbella, I think.
Well..
Maybe I should come back with better pictures of the spines
Thanks for commenting
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
So here are more and better pictures.
Until now two names have been suggested: rubrograndis and deherdtiana.
We should be able to distinguish them, shouldn't we?
I noticed now that there is some wool in the axils...if it helps.
Thanks for any comments!
Until now two names have been suggested: rubrograndis and deherdtiana.
We should be able to distinguish them, shouldn't we?
I noticed now that there is some wool in the axils...if it helps.
Thanks for any comments!
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
M. dodsonii? Despite the long central spines and smaller flower?
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower)
From Llifle.com -- Mammillaria deherdtiana on the left and deherdtiana var. dodsonii on the right:
Not sure if you have a dodsonii, but yours may just be showing some variability in the species.
Not sure if you have a dodsonii, but yours may just be showing some variability in the species.
If you just want photos without all the blather, please visit my Flickr gallery.
My location: Los Angeles, CA (Zone 10b)
My location: Los Angeles, CA (Zone 10b)
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
Thank you Steve. It is hard to "decide" if it is just variability when you dont know the species very well.
However which such kind of flowers it couldn't be many other things...I think
..maybe hybrids?
Thanks
However which such kind of flowers it couldn't be many other things...I think
..maybe hybrids?
Thanks
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
Your Mamm's long spines and small flowers are atypical for "straight up" deherdtiana var. dodsonii, so I'm leaning more toward hybrid. The dodsonii side of its genetic heritage seems apparent, but unfortunately I don't know Mamms well enough to guess at the species that contributed the other side of the hybridization. Whatever you have, it's a pretty one.
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
What do you mean by "mixed up some seeds". Did you buy a seed mix, or mixed up the species names? If you purchased species. what species did you buy? This may help narrow down the possibilities.
Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
Sometimes very young and small plants have smaller atypical flowers especially in combination with deficiency of watering. I see very close features of dodsonii and hope time will show is this suggestion false or true.
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Re: Mammillaria ID (with flower) (new pictures)
In fact I received lots of unidentified seeds from someone and mixed up with other unidentified seeds...hard to know but thanks!Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:58 pmWhat do you mean by "mixed up some seeds". Did you buy a seed mix, or mixed up the species names? If you purchased species. what species did you buy? This may help narrow down the possibilities.