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Hello, could you id me this one?
Thank you

M. haageana?

Mammillaria crucigera subs. tlalocii.

Or possibly a close relation of Mammillaria tlalocii = Mammillaria huitzilopotchlii since the central spines are usually produced on older plants, often intermittently or not at all.

DaveW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:26 pm Or possibly a close relation of Mammillaria tlalocii = Mammillaria huitzilopotchlii since the central spines are usually produced on older plants, often intermittently or not at all.


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Agreed. Another possibility is the enigmatic M. sp. FO 229:

Tom in Tucson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:09 pm

DaveW wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:26 pm Or possibly a close relation of Mammillaria tlalocii = Mammillaria huitzilopotchlii since the central spines are usually produced on older plants, often intermittently or not at all.


huitzilopotchli.jpg


huitzilopotchli2.jpg

Agreed. Another possibility is the enigmatic M. sp. FO 229:

Where that name come from?
I'll try to upload tomorrow a better pic, maybe it helps

Jorge

Just looked up FO numbers in Ralph Martin's database. FO = Felipe Otero a Mexican cactus collector and the entry for FO 229 is:-

Field number: FO 229
Collector: Felipe Otero
Species: Mammillaria elegans v.
Locality: Conpuerta, Sierra Mixteca, border Oaxaca-Pueblo, Mexico
Altitude:
Date: 14-May-88
Notes: minute white spines, red flowers; M. tlalocii

For those that have not used the Ralph Martin/BCSS database it is here:-

https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk/

You may also find some details of these plants in Otero et al field notes:-

https://mammillaria.net/mexican-field-notes/