Something about cacti
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:30 pm
New member here. Somewhat new to the cacti club. Started in 2020 by seed. Few columnars, tons of Lophs, and recently ario and myrio kikko.
Ill upload pictures when I figure out the attachment limit, I feel like its listed in another thread somewhere, and I will go find it soon.
early 2020
Planted a ton of Loph and Trich seeds. Various localities. Used UncleWilly for the domestic (US) loph seeds. Same with the trich seeds.
I must have planted a couple hundred LW that year. Have the majority of them outside now. (Coastal Texas).
I started all these seeds out on some seed starter mix (forgive me) and had them indoors under an LED with temps around 68 or so. Surprisingly had no issues. I used to sterilize,( as loosely put as the soil i used) and had no issues. Looking back, I believe that is because I grew indoors for the seedlings for the first year. I also run an indoor mushroom farm, with HEPA filtered environment and relatively clean area. Had some algae, no mold. Lost no seedlings to rot or anything like that indoors. Again, not sure how, but it worked.
Continued to sow seeds for the next year. Mostly trich seeds because they grow fast and I like them. Quickly realized I wouldnt have the space for all of them, so i stopped with about 100 or so yearlings. Gave some away. Neglected some during some moments where personal matters took precedence.
Fast forward to late 2021 early 2022. I moved the mushroom farm to another indoor room, added more shelving for storage, and naturally started with more seeds. For a while, I had an interest in L. Fricii asian cultivars. oiboo, variegated forms. Unique plants. These are all still young, and I will graft a few to speed up the seed process. I think I ended up with about 100 or so of these guys.
Right after that, I met a cool fella from Thailand, and he grew some really amazing myriostigma Kikko and Kohyo forms. Ended up ordering about 150 seeds from him, of various forms.
This is where things get interesting. I started really looking into substrate composition. I deal a lot with substrate for various mushroom species. Maitake, nebrodensis, king oysters. Part of that process is either pasteurization or sterilization and then aseptic growing. For obvious reason, or maybe not so obvious reasons, sterilization should really be used in an aseptic environment. Growing only what you want to grow. This works for mycelium in a poly bag, but the same principal doesn't apply well to plants.
My searches for information and anecdotal experiences bring me here. Lurked for a while reading through years of archived data and stories of other growers. What I learned is everything will work for someone somewhere. But that doesnt apply to me. So I kept digging. Stone Eaters book,Xero something. YOu name it, I was trying to read it.
I took a look at what I was growing. And realized I need to get some minerals and get to work.
I had a nice mix of turface, akadama, charcoal, granite, and a few others mixed, available locally. So i grabbed a 50lb bag and voila.
I wanted to first decide what mix I wanted my seedlings in. I knew i wanted some minerals. I wanted the microbiome that works for the plants. Cactus that eat stones love stones. But, I also wanted my seedlings to thrive. I love the hard grown look, and think they are fantastic. But I also knew they could have a nice form and be healthy plants. I chose to go that route.
Personal experiences have shown me that Lophs are pretty easy going cacti. THey take a while, but all of them do. Pretty hardy suckers in my book. But my reading also told me that astrophytum can be picky. Grain of salt type things.
So i decide on a mix. It ends up being about 60 percent mineral mix, with 40 percent or so of a nice soil mix.(FF Ocean Forest). I have had great luck with this soil, and the quality is always high. MAterial is sifted as well as I could want for a big bag of soil, leaving little work for me to put it in the mix. I made the soil, hydrated it, and then decided to pasteurize it.
Now, when I say pasteurize, I mean true pasteurization, not sterilization or halfway measures. I have a stainless 55gal (208L) atmospheric sterilizer/pasteruizer. I built it with a PID controller and 1500w element. Hooked up to water lines with a float valve. K type thermocouple inserted into the middle of the bag I was doing.
Pasteurization generally means between 160-180f for 1-2 hours to kill off a bunch of bad stuff. So that is what I did. I also chose to do the same thing to the mineral top layer I use. No reason as the minerals are fairly inert for this sake. But went ahead and did it because why not.
Results so far have been fantastic. No issues with the higher organic content in the seedling mix, no damping off, no rot. Havent seen mold or algae yet. I recently moved everything outdoors under covered patio area. COuple shelves tucked away with ambient light for the seedlings. Outside temps are swinging from high 70s to high 80s, sometimes reaching triple digits. Again, shaded area that tends to be 5-6 degrees cooler than the areas around it.
I will be updating this as I go along. I have some plans to try various things. Changing substrate recipe. Watching for growth and issues as the seedlings progress. Moving them outside has changed how I have been doing things, but I am confident I will see better growth and nicer plants as time goes on.
As it stands right now, the list is of such. All the myrio and Ario seeds are recent doings. The myrio I sowed about 3 weeks ago. The ario were this past weekend. Lophs are varying ages, but all still young.
Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus bravoanus
Ariocarpus fissuatus
Ariocarpus hintonii
Ariocarpus retusus
Ariocarpus retusus Confusus
Ariocarpus retusus Cauliflower
Ariocarpus retusus Fat Tubercles
Ariocarpus retusus x trigonus
Ariocarpus scapharostrus
Ariocarpus trigonus
Ariocarpus trigonus horacekii
Ariocarpus Godzilla
Astrophytum Myriostigma Kikko/kohyo
Lophophora Williamsii
Lophophora Fricii variegated/crested parents/oiboo
All in all, probably 7-800 seedlings, couple hundred yearlings of LW and trich, and then a few older cactus I picked up for one reason or another.
Future plans.
-Greenhouse. NOt only does the wife want one, I am going to need an area to protect these plants from the hurricanes and torrential rain we get sometimes. And if it is anything like 2021, Ill need to keep them warm in the winter going forward. Easy to do with young plants, harder in a couple years.
-Start producing all plants grown by me, from seeds grown by me.
-Eventually work on some crosses, more grafting, more growing.
I realize this board isn't super active everywhere, but I have enjoyed the pictures and reading, and figured I would contribute back.
Ill upload pictures when I figure out the attachment limit, I feel like its listed in another thread somewhere, and I will go find it soon.
early 2020
Planted a ton of Loph and Trich seeds. Various localities. Used UncleWilly for the domestic (US) loph seeds. Same with the trich seeds.
I must have planted a couple hundred LW that year. Have the majority of them outside now. (Coastal Texas).
I started all these seeds out on some seed starter mix (forgive me) and had them indoors under an LED with temps around 68 or so. Surprisingly had no issues. I used to sterilize,( as loosely put as the soil i used) and had no issues. Looking back, I believe that is because I grew indoors for the seedlings for the first year. I also run an indoor mushroom farm, with HEPA filtered environment and relatively clean area. Had some algae, no mold. Lost no seedlings to rot or anything like that indoors. Again, not sure how, but it worked.
Continued to sow seeds for the next year. Mostly trich seeds because they grow fast and I like them. Quickly realized I wouldnt have the space for all of them, so i stopped with about 100 or so yearlings. Gave some away. Neglected some during some moments where personal matters took precedence.
Fast forward to late 2021 early 2022. I moved the mushroom farm to another indoor room, added more shelving for storage, and naturally started with more seeds. For a while, I had an interest in L. Fricii asian cultivars. oiboo, variegated forms. Unique plants. These are all still young, and I will graft a few to speed up the seed process. I think I ended up with about 100 or so of these guys.
Right after that, I met a cool fella from Thailand, and he grew some really amazing myriostigma Kikko and Kohyo forms. Ended up ordering about 150 seeds from him, of various forms.
This is where things get interesting. I started really looking into substrate composition. I deal a lot with substrate for various mushroom species. Maitake, nebrodensis, king oysters. Part of that process is either pasteurization or sterilization and then aseptic growing. For obvious reason, or maybe not so obvious reasons, sterilization should really be used in an aseptic environment. Growing only what you want to grow. This works for mycelium in a poly bag, but the same principal doesn't apply well to plants.
My searches for information and anecdotal experiences bring me here. Lurked for a while reading through years of archived data and stories of other growers. What I learned is everything will work for someone somewhere. But that doesnt apply to me. So I kept digging. Stone Eaters book,Xero something. YOu name it, I was trying to read it.
I took a look at what I was growing. And realized I need to get some minerals and get to work.
I had a nice mix of turface, akadama, charcoal, granite, and a few others mixed, available locally. So i grabbed a 50lb bag and voila.
I wanted to first decide what mix I wanted my seedlings in. I knew i wanted some minerals. I wanted the microbiome that works for the plants. Cactus that eat stones love stones. But, I also wanted my seedlings to thrive. I love the hard grown look, and think they are fantastic. But I also knew they could have a nice form and be healthy plants. I chose to go that route.
Personal experiences have shown me that Lophs are pretty easy going cacti. THey take a while, but all of them do. Pretty hardy suckers in my book. But my reading also told me that astrophytum can be picky. Grain of salt type things.
So i decide on a mix. It ends up being about 60 percent mineral mix, with 40 percent or so of a nice soil mix.(FF Ocean Forest). I have had great luck with this soil, and the quality is always high. MAterial is sifted as well as I could want for a big bag of soil, leaving little work for me to put it in the mix. I made the soil, hydrated it, and then decided to pasteurize it.
Now, when I say pasteurize, I mean true pasteurization, not sterilization or halfway measures. I have a stainless 55gal (208L) atmospheric sterilizer/pasteruizer. I built it with a PID controller and 1500w element. Hooked up to water lines with a float valve. K type thermocouple inserted into the middle of the bag I was doing.
Pasteurization generally means between 160-180f for 1-2 hours to kill off a bunch of bad stuff. So that is what I did. I also chose to do the same thing to the mineral top layer I use. No reason as the minerals are fairly inert for this sake. But went ahead and did it because why not.
Results so far have been fantastic. No issues with the higher organic content in the seedling mix, no damping off, no rot. Havent seen mold or algae yet. I recently moved everything outdoors under covered patio area. COuple shelves tucked away with ambient light for the seedlings. Outside temps are swinging from high 70s to high 80s, sometimes reaching triple digits. Again, shaded area that tends to be 5-6 degrees cooler than the areas around it.
I will be updating this as I go along. I have some plans to try various things. Changing substrate recipe. Watching for growth and issues as the seedlings progress. Moving them outside has changed how I have been doing things, but I am confident I will see better growth and nicer plants as time goes on.
As it stands right now, the list is of such. All the myrio and Ario seeds are recent doings. The myrio I sowed about 3 weeks ago. The ario were this past weekend. Lophs are varying ages, but all still young.
Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus bravoanus
Ariocarpus fissuatus
Ariocarpus hintonii
Ariocarpus retusus
Ariocarpus retusus Confusus
Ariocarpus retusus Cauliflower
Ariocarpus retusus Fat Tubercles
Ariocarpus retusus x trigonus
Ariocarpus scapharostrus
Ariocarpus trigonus
Ariocarpus trigonus horacekii
Ariocarpus Godzilla
Astrophytum Myriostigma Kikko/kohyo
Lophophora Williamsii
Lophophora Fricii variegated/crested parents/oiboo
All in all, probably 7-800 seedlings, couple hundred yearlings of LW and trich, and then a few older cactus I picked up for one reason or another.
Future plans.
-Greenhouse. NOt only does the wife want one, I am going to need an area to protect these plants from the hurricanes and torrential rain we get sometimes. And if it is anything like 2021, Ill need to keep them warm in the winter going forward. Easy to do with young plants, harder in a couple years.
-Start producing all plants grown by me, from seeds grown by me.
-Eventually work on some crosses, more grafting, more growing.
I realize this board isn't super active everywhere, but I have enjoyed the pictures and reading, and figured I would contribute back.