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This is a question to the english speaking members :) As I understand a florist can be both a person working in a shop who sells flowers ( both potted and bouqets) and the shop itself? I have also seen flowershop been used but which of these are most common?
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Always florist in England.
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One Windowsill wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm Always florist in England.

Thank you! :)
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Florist and flower shop are pretty interchangeable here in the US. The person is still called a florist
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Shane wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:28 pm Florist and flower shop are pretty interchangeable here in the US. The person is still called a florist
Thank you Shane :) Would all the staff in the florist be called florist’s or is it only the owner/manager? :)
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Mrs.Green wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:26 am Thank you Shane :) Would all the staff in the florist be called florist’s or is it only the owner/manager? :)
Hmm l might have to defer to someone who spends more time in flowershops than I do. I'd say the person who who's actually working with the flowers would be the florist, and maybe the owner and manager too. Since most flowershops are pretty small it's likely all the staff work with flowers and could be called florists
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I agree with Shane's assessment. Florist is the establishment and usually, IMO, the owner. Also could be the head florist in a busy shop with other florists working along side the 'boss'.
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Shane wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:51 pm
Mrs.Green wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:26 am Thank you Shane :) Would all the staff in the florist be called florist’s or is it only the owner/manager? :)
Hmm l might have to defer to someone who spends more time in flowershops than I do. I'd say the person who who's actually working with the flowers would be the florist, and maybe the owner and manager too. Since most flowershops are pretty small it's likely all the staff work with flowers and could be called florists
Steve-0 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:56 am I agree with Shane's assessment. Florist is the establishment and usually, IMO, the owner. Also could be the head florist in a busy shop with other florists working along side the 'boss'.
Thank you for the clarification Shane and Steve-O :) From this I gather that the hired help who works there on saturdays isn’t called a florist? :D I initially belived that a florist was someone who was educated in wreath binding ( not sure if this is the correct way to say it?)
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"Thank you for the clarification Shane and Steve-O :) From this I gather that the hired help who works there on saturdays isn’t called a florist? :D I initially belived that a florist was someone who was educated in wreath binding ( not sure if this is the correct way to say it?)"

Mrs. Green, Yes, I would say those persons are employees and not "The" Florist nor "A" florist. The training and education in floral arrangement designing is most likely not extant in a part time, hired help employee.

I personally use a florist's service 2-3 times annually to send flowers to my Mother who lives 4K km to the east of me. I look at their website, choose what I wish to purchase, then call to discuss with her my decision. She then describes the arrangement and informs me of what inventory they have in stock as well as any substitutions they may need to make. She is really good at what she does...and how do I know this? Because my Mother's response when we talk on the phone after the flowers arrive is always glowing and happy.

The other TeleFlorist service I used in the past were not florists in my opinion at all. They had a cooler full of "factory" arrangements which got tossed into a box and FEDEXed to my mom's yard somewhere as they drove by. That happened only once. :evil:

The wreath binding term is new to me. But it seems to be accurate and correct. Many Americans put Holiday wreaths on their doors at Christmas time. Most are purchased at big box stores, grocery stores and Christmas Tree lots. Haven't seen nor heard of anyone in this generation binding their own wreaths...says the guy who harvested a Walnut tree from his farm and crafted a porch chair from it. :wink:
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Steve-O; Thank you :) From your explanation, it seems to me that I have understood the term( florist) correctly :) From my experience some (usually not all) of the staff in a florist ( shop) are educated in wreathbinding. Funeral wreats and bouquets seems to be an important part of the income.

Oh, here in Norway the weekly magazines are full of descriptions on how to bind your own christmaswreath , every christmas. Not that I have tried, I prefer my ‘vegetables’ to be alive :D

No walnuttrees growing here, I guess it’s to cold for them here. I recently read that scientists have discovered that the walnutrees leaves containes progesteron which was a bit of a surprise since it was belived that only humans and other animals could produce this hormone.
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The shop refers to the premises surely. People can be florists, but people are not flower shops?

Looking Florist up in the dictionary I get:-

"a person who sells and arranges cut flowers"

The alternative given if you want it to refer to the premises where flower sellers and arrangers are employed is called a florist's, or florist's shop and not a florist. Though these definitions may be abused in normal speech.
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You don't need to go to some flower boutique if you live nearby nordic plant market Plantasjen where's always large assortment of cacti and succulent and other indoor and garden plants.
Florists don't unterstand nothing more than arranging cut flowers. IMHO
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While driving yesterday, I passed a shop named "Ruth's Floral". And by definition a floral is: of, relating to, or depicting flowers. As in a floral display or design.
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As a noun, a "floral" may mean a fabric with a flowery design or a dancer at the Roman festival called Floralia, in honour of the goddess of flowers, Flora.

Perhaps Ruth is a pagan.
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DaveW wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:20 pm The shop refers to the premises surely. People can be florists, but people are not flower shops?

Looking Florist up in the dictionary I get:-

"a person who sells and arranges cut flowers"

The alternative given if you want it to refer to the premises where flower sellers and arrangers are employed is called a florist's, or florist's shop and not a florist. Though these definitions may be abused in normal speech.
Thank you DaveW! That makes sence to me . Even though English isn’t my language I felt it was something wrong with calling the shop itself florist, it just don’t sounds right to me.
anttisepp wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:20 am You don't need to go to some flower boutique if you live nearby nordic plant market Plantasjen where's always large assortment of cacti and succulent and other indoor and garden plants.
Florists don't unterstand nothing more than arranging cut flowers. IMHO
Plantasjen is great but unfortunately their cacti quite often come with their own pets or pests if you like.. I have more than one time seen cacti I wanted just to find them hosting a whole party of mealy bugs.. :| I think the problem in many specialist shops like hm..florist’s or petshops are that the staff is nice and smiling but unfortunately doesn’t know much about what they are selling. I have experienced this over and over again over the years.
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