Self fertile / Self sterile link

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:16 pm

Seems to be fairly accurate to me,

http://lapsyserre.free.fr/psy_liste/SPSY2K4.doc

lordarutha · Post by **lordarutha** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:52 pm

I must take some time to go through that list if I am ever going to collect seed from my plants. Thanks for that link Tony.

Lewis_cacti · Post by **Lewis_cacti** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:43 am

Helpful link, thanks Tony

ally2000 · Post by **ally2000** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:56 pm

guys, how do you interprete the list? sorry but i am a newbie and dont speak french or latin.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:29 pm

look in the colum after the plant name (auto sterile/fertile).
If it has an S it is self sterile, and an F indicates self fertile.
As for all the rest, I havent a clue.

Saguaro123 · Post by **Saguaro123** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:02 pm

Nice link Tony.

I see that this is all in Francais.

I still don't get the difference between Self Sterile and Self Fertile.

dustin0352 · Post by **dustin0352** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:44 pm

Byron, as im still pretty much a noob im not sure, but I believe self fertile means one plant can pollinate itself, self sterile means you must have 2 plants to pollinate.

Saguaro123 · Post by **Saguaro123** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:55 am

Thanks Dustin.

That means that I'll have to get another of all the plants i have.

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:14 am

Yeah!!! Just the info I wanted...and today at that.

It was on my list to lookup after I read the forum.

Thanks!!!

Scottyzx12 · Post by **Scottyzx12** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:45 pm

What does S/f mean?

Mostly_Harmless · Post by **Mostly_Harmless** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:58 pm

Awesome link, cheers!

Scottyzx12 wrote:What does S/f mean?

s means self-sterile, f means self-fertile

peterb · Post by **peterb** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:28 pm

I've set seed on many of the plants listed as self-sterile, so I do wonder about the list. This self-fertile/self-sterile thing is a real mystery to me. I wonder if it is even possible to generalize. It seems many supposedly self sterile cacti can be "fooled" into setting seed by pollen from a completely unrelated plant. The seed comes true; it's not hybrid seed.

peterb

Scottyzx12 · Post by **Scottyzx12** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:42 pm

no, you misunderstand my meaning. Some are s some are f but some are both (S/F) What do these mean?

Loph · Post by **Loph** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:13 pm

peterb wrote:I've set seed on many of the plants listed as self-sterile, so I do wonder about the list. This self-fertile/self-sterile thing is a real mystery to me. I wonder if it is even possible to generalize. It seems many supposedly self sterile cacti can be "fooled" into setting seed by pollen from a completely unrelated plant. The seed comes true; it's not hybrid seed.

peterb

ya you are totally right. when usign the *2* entry system, its hard cause it would theoretcally be possible for many to be fooled, though teh way they are fooled may vary.

things like timing and method play a huge role. a great example is many people consider Hylocereus undatus self fertile, but really they just release/accept pollen and have their style much longer than their filaments to avoid selfing, but they "easily" self when those 2 things are overcome (ie with human hands)

persoanlyl i have started reconsidering the use of "self sterile/fertile" as definitive terms, as you say they are far from it.

Peterthecactusguy · Post by **Peterthecactusguy** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:02 am

I was wondering about that for saguaros. I dont see them listed on the list. I have had people tell me both ways. However I suspect that they are self-fertile. I mean after all when I had one I thought it put out the fruits, but I dont remember. I know that last year for the first bloom I had crap loads of fruits.
2 years ago there were some but a lot of them were in shock. Oh well I will talk to someone and find out all I could ever want to know about seeding saguaros.