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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:20 pm
by RichR
Nice looking cacti! I've always been happy with the quality of the plants from Mesa. Mine should be arriving today or tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:08 pm
by peterb
The plants are always interesting and healthy and grown hard. They transition easily to the way I grow (except last shipment which arrived in mid summer, right before I left for Baja...sunburn galore.)
peterb
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:26 pm
by Minime8484
peterb wrote:The plants are always interesting and healthy and grown hard. They transition easily to the way I grow (except last shipment which arrived in mid summer, right before I left for Baja...sunburn galore.)
peterb
That's one of the most valuable characteristics of MGs plants: the fact they are grown hard.
That's the way I like 'em.
I only lost one plant from MG from my 3 orders in 2011 - no other source comes close to that survival rate!
Nice looking plants, peterb! That Mamm sure looks to be worth another shot!
Cheers,
Tristan
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:53 pm
by peterb
Yes, Mammillaria albicans is a great one, from a very beautiful area of BCS. I think I will spend some time in San Juan de la Costa this summer. The flowers of albicans are stunning. here's a pic of one of Tony's plants in flower:
http://cactiguide.com/graphics/m_albicans_b_600.jpg
anyone know anything more about vivipara bisbeeana sonorensis?
peterb
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:15 pm
by RichR
peterb wrote:The plants are always interesting and healthy and grown hard.
peterb
Peter, can you elaborate on "Grown hard?" I've heard that expression a lot but not sure what it entails.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:41 pm
by CoronaCactus
RichR wrote:peterb wrote:The plants are always interesting and healthy and grown hard.
peterb
Peter, can you elaborate on "Grown hard?" I've heard that expression a lot but not sure what it entails.
High heat, max sun ... Min fertilizer, min water.
In a way, it could equate to cultivation by neglect
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:49 pm
by Tony
Just curious about how these new plants are grown as far as how much sun they get.
Arnt they all grown in a green house or are some of them adapted already to grow in full sun?
If they are all grown under shade cloth, does anyone know what percentage shade they are grown in at Mesa garden.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:06 pm
by peterb
Yes, they are grown in greenhouses for the most part. I haven't visited Mesa Garden in a long while, but very little was being grown outdoors when I was there back in the 90s. No shade cloth in sight when I was there, perhaps a bit of whitewashing on some of the houses. Not glass, but plastic coverings.
In addition to what Darryl said about "grown hard," I would add any regimen that keeps the plants compact, focuses their development on the roots and maximum spine cover.
peterb
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:49 am
by peterb
finally sowed yesterday. I was home sick with a slight cold, not bad enough to keep me from using the unexpected free few hours to get the flat started.
sandy, gritty, desert loamy seed mix with about 5 different particle sizes. Trying it without any vermiculite or peat at all this year. This is post microwaving until hot, about 5 minutes in small batches, just to kill the nasty stuff, not to really sterilize.
Didn't actually include any half and half or coffee. The kitchen just ends up being the plant work space.
ready to go. about 30 packets from MG and about 10 from my own old stock.
Listed in a grid on a piece of paper, abbreviated notations directly on the pot with sharpie. Sown and under lights. It took about two hours altogether.
This is exactly what I'm looking for the first two weeks or so, a nice coating of droplets on the dome.
crossing my fingers, looking forward to having a bunch of new stuff.
peterb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:07 am
by peterb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:42 am
by iann
I don't think you're gambling too much with the Pediocactus. Noon today, 34F in the greenhouse, light snow, and all the Pediocactus are wet. Tonight it will freeze, but tomorrow it should be sunny again.
The others it is hard to tell, I don't know what your weather could get like.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:52 pm
by peterb
here's that table I posted in another thread, with widely divergent dates for Phoenix/Sky Harbor Airport (2/7) and Tempe (3/2), a mere 6 miles apart.
http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/h ... /frost.htm So it's interesting. But even so, the frosts are usually very mild in Feb. Record lows have been in the mid 20s, but this seems like a warm winter. Anyway, I can always just haul everyone in for the night or a few days if necessary. The averages are 70s during the day and 40s overnight, a nice Santa Fe summer.
peterb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:39 pm
by Peterthecactusguy
and to think, what the chances are up where I live. We have had light frost in the middle of October, and in the middle of March. It;s been in the 70s everyday tho. I am not sure if I should put any of my plants out. I think maybe next week baring anything major coming in like a huge winter storm, with freezing temps...
It's always dicey here in the desert.
I need to make a list of the cold tolerances of all my plants.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:43 pm
by CoronaCactus
Awesome!
Low tech approach with high tech results
I gotta get going man, its almost February!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:48 pm
by iann
I bet you'll be warmer outside than it will be in my greenhouse, but then I have the fallback of turning on a heater if we get a sudden exceptionally cold night.