Eriosyce today

vbueno · Post by **vbueno** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:01 pm

Thanks, Jens. I've helped a lot. I'm going to put a label as Eriosyce taltalensis transiens pygmaea.
However, the color of the flowers of Eriosyce misleads a lot.
Look, floccosa different colored:

Vicent

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Sat May 22, 2010 2:57 pm

Hi Vicent
Thanks again for posting those beautiful plant pictures.
The flower colour in most cases isn´t of much diagnostic value... but still beautiful.
In most floccosa flowers the one outer petal layer is darker than the inner ones. But it really is difficult to see in the nicely salmon coloured one.
Here is a plant that has a similar flower color which I suspect to be Eriosyce taltalensis ssp. echinus var. echinus (Katt.), E. paucicostata ssp. echinus (Ferryman):

It came without label.

vbueno · Post by **vbueno** » Sat May 22, 2010 5:31 pm

Hi, Jens:
This plant was labeled as viridis.

Eriosyce paucicostata subsp paucicostata viridis

And this as echinus

Eriosyce paucicostata subsp echinus

All the laui come from the same clone except the far right

Vicent

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Sat May 22, 2010 7:12 pm

Hello Vicent,
your E. paucicostata v. viridis looks like my plant. That might be it, allthough viridis means green and our plants are not very green. Rather bluish green which would be glaucus in botanic-latin.

How long do the E. laui (Rimacactus)flowers stay open?- several days like most Eriosyce, or rather like two days as a Copiapoa flower?

DWDogwood · Post by **DWDogwood** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:33 am

Nice thread. Just received my first two grafted E. laui clones and look forward to their novelty wearing off soon

Here is an old Neochilenia (

) of notable flower color.

vbueno · Post by **vbueno** » Sun May 23, 2010 6:57 pm

Congratulations DWDogwood, good growth!
Jens, Eriosyce laui flowers stay open three or four days if they do not receive full sun.

Viridiflorus???, yes, Jens, a paradoxical name. Allow me a little joke.

Here I bought myself
http://www.ortegacactus.es/galleries/Ca ... is%20.html

Another thing, I think I found the owner of the label of Eriosyce esmeraldana:

I would like to know your opinion.

Another thing. These two I have them as confinis. What do you think?

Vicent

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Sun May 23, 2010 7:52 pm

Good joke ! Mujer means woman?
Kattermann descibes different forms of Confinis too. One from Monte Amargo with darker spines and redish flowers and one from the Sierra Hornillos with thicker but lighter coloured spines and lighter flower .
Your plants match that description.
I have only seedling plants that I can savely call confinis. Some adults are still doubtfull. (posted them in Eriosyce ID)

iann · Post by **iann** » Sun May 23, 2010 10:58 pm

I'm not familiar with E. confinis, but I don't think that first one is E. esmeraldana.

vbueno · Post by **vbueno** » Mon May 24, 2010 7:25 am

Yes, Jens woman = mujer.
They should make another category for those who put color names to cacti.

Thank you Iann. We'll wait to see the fruits and seeds.
Vicent

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Mon May 24, 2010 7:56 am

Hello
The suspected E. esmeraldana is lacking the porrect bristles so that would maybe fit E. napina better. But the fruit is important to separate many Thelocephala. Esmeraldana fruit should be elongated with plenty of wool and bristles.
Here are some younger plants I am pretty sure of.
1. esmeraldana FK 506
2.+ 3. esmeraldana FK795

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri May 28, 2010 4:53 pm

I found some more Eriosyce flowers today (and yesterday)

Eriosyce taltalensis v. pygmaea (Nc. pulchella)

Eriosyce heinrichiana FK 81

Eriosyce taltalensis v. pygmaea FK 45-77

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri May 28, 2010 5:10 pm

Two more

Eriosyce tenebrica

Eriosyce aspillagae

iann · Post by **iann** » Fri May 28, 2010 7:15 pm

Eriosyce taltalensis v. pygmaea (Nc. pulchella)

Perfect example to contrast with my version of N. pulchella. I'm convinced that two different species have been sneaking about with the same name ...

Jens · Post by **Jens** » Fri May 28, 2010 7:58 pm

I think so too Ian, with my version (darker spines and reddish flower) being the atypical form.
The typical pulchella should have wavy, whitish spines and lightly coloured flowers.
They picture it here too:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cactushorr ... 144689816/

Arjen · Post by **Arjen** » Sat May 29, 2010 6:46 am

remarkable flowers! some look almost as if they were damaged, except the damage is the same on every petal! they must be a stunning sight in habitat! great show, keep it up!