Two Cacti ID request

[Minime8484]

These two cacti were already in the ground in my yard when I moved in over 10 years ago, but I've never been able to put a definite ID on either of them.
I'd love to know what you all think they could be.
Neither has ever bloomed for me.

The first one is about 3.5ft tall, and I have always suspected it to be Echinopsis spachiana.

Whole plant:

Close up:


The second plant, which is a sprawling plant, I assume is some species of Echinopsis, but that's about all I can guess:



Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,
Tristan

[daiv]

The first is definitely E. spachiana

The second is probably a hybrid.

[Tony]

First one looks like Echinopsis spachiana and the second looks Echinopsis huascha.
Like always, flowers will help confirm.

[Minime8484]

I think you all have hit the nail on the head.

I agree with Echinopsis spachinana for #1 & Echinopsis huascha for #2.

I'm hoping for blooms some day to confirm...not sure why they are refusing to date; I may provide supplemental water this spring and see if that helps (never watered either plant).

Thanks all!
Cheers,
Tristan

[Tony]

Water and fertilizer should do the trick.

[Minime8484]

#2 confirmed now as Echinopsis huascha by presenting me FINALLY with a single flower this week.

Echinopsis huascha (2012-May06).JPG (25.54 KiB) Viewed 89 times

Unfortunately, still no sign of flowered from #1 (the purported E. spachiana).

[Peterthecactusguy]

those can be hard to ID because you need a flower to be sure. I have seen E. huascha that looks like E. spachiana and vice versa.