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Trichocereus (T. pachanoi, T. peruvianus) to get high!

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:16 am
by Eustace

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:14 pm
by daiv
Yeah, the good thing is that E. pachanoi is not nearly as well known or sought after as L. williamsii. That means it isn't banned here in the U.S.

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:37 pm
by DieTer-Xz
Daiv, do you honestly don't have a L. williamsii?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:21 pm
by daiv
Nope, don't have that one. I suspect I will eventually, but am not actively persuing any cacti.

Because of my limited space, I now collect cacti as they come or are convenient. I usually pick up one or two each month at the cactus club meetings. Thanks to GeneS, I am usually able to pick up healthy, uncommon, properly identified plants at the raffle table.

This keeps me at a slower pace that allows for my lack of room for more. Also saves money!

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:23 pm
by DieTer-Xz
If you ever want to grow one, I have a whole bunch so I can send you seeds of a properly identified specimen.

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:29 pm
by daiv
Thank you! Very kind! Before I take you up on that offer, however, I need to get better at growing from seed. I plan on setting up a little incubator that I can use to ensure a more controlled environment. I want to get some common seeds to make it before going to more unusual ones. I am the consistent killer of seedlings. :idea:

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:31 pm
by DieTer-Xz
Well, for me it's my first year of sowing, so I'm not too good either. But the Lophophora's tend to germinate quite fast and well :).

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:09 am
by hagbard celine
here is a great site for growing these wonderful creatures:

and another wonderful site for the entheogenic and medicinal uses of cacti, although some what incomplete: ... Cacti.html

i have been growing a san pedro for a while now. it is so beautiful to watch it grow and develop, especially since it will add many inches over the summer!

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:46 am
by daiv
Yep, it's a nice species. Mine has great big buds on it that should open tomorrow.

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:57 pm
by tvaughan
Another thing to do by private correspondence. The idiots who gave us the Patriot Act are just lusting to make raids on private houses.

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:33 am
by ihc6480
TimV wrote:Another thing to do by private correspondence. The idiots who gave us the Patriot Act are just lusting to make raids on private houses.
Yep, I agree :wink:

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:17 pm
by M S Smith
hagbard celine, for a significantly updated version of the work you consider "incomplete" see Sacramental and Medicinal Cacti at


Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:14 pm
by Bill in SC
I was recently sent three 12 inch San Pedro cuttings. I am going to plant them today as they have calloused over good now. I hope THEY get high in their containers, but no danger of me ingesting any of it!! :lol:
Bill in SC

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:28 pm
by M S Smith
I must admit, close to 15 years ago I had an interest in this and other plants for their chemical constituencies, but as with all cacti once you start to grow them they take on a whole new meaning as the cultivation and collection hobby grows and you learn to enjoy the particular aesthetics of them.

My book, though a minor publication at that, is an attempt to draw together the existent information (particularly on the dozen or more non-Lophophora "peyote") and help clarify what is an incredible degree of confusion. It is an academic work and not one for those looking to get "high." I do not advocate such use at all.


Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:50 am
by daiv
Hey Michael,
Very interesting! I did not make the connection that you were the author. (I'm not usually that slow, honest!) Anyway, looks like a worthy piece none-the-less. I must say that I do like learning about related information in addition to just the names of plants and where they grow.