Two Needing a Name Please

[Tiggy]

These two are really doing my head in! The first one I bought back in 2012 and have been patiently waiting to try and identify her. I have seen several possibilities but am no nearer to a positive ID so have decided to post for Sorry to post so many shots of her but thought it would make it more probable of a correct ID. I've put seven views of this one and then there is another one that I have had for at least 18 months and can't work out what it is. Hope someone can recognise them.

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Here it is reverting back to it's original form I think, but it still continues to crest nicely.

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Close-up of one of the long shoots.

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Sorry to upload so many shots but thought it would help with and ID. and I think it's time that they had a name rather than just a number Thank you in anticipation

Susi

[Minime8484]

The first is Cleistocactus winteri.

[Tiggy]

Thank you Minime Now to find a name for number two....... ( I apologize that I couldn't thank you last night as the internet was playing up here )

Susi

[tumamoc]

#2 looks like something from the Echinopsis group.

[Tiggy]

#2 looks like something from the Echinopsis group.

Really? That's an option that never entered my head. It's never produced nor even suggested that it would like to produce blooms which is why I have waited so long to ask for help. Thank you for the idea "tumamoc"

Susi

[Tiggy]

I think I have found a match for no.2 (maybe wrong but there you go) Could it be a Lobivia rauschii?

Susi