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OOH NOO!!!!

I was watching this item and at the last moments put in my high bid, hit confirm then got sent to a page saying:

"Sorry this item can't be shipped to the U.S." - THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING! I was going to have it sent to a friend in England and then get it sent here. I've been looking for a copy of this book for years. Here I could get one at a great price and a technicality prevented it. I would have paid more than what the final bid was that's for sure.

Man this really burns me. :protest:

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Sorry to hear that Daiv! Unfortunately Ebay would be a mess if people from anywhere could bid on an item that the seller wants to limit to a certain area. I've just started selling plants and I set it up to only allow buyers from the USA because of the problems associated with shipping plants internationally. What I would suggest is to have your friend in the UK buy it for you then you pay him back. The other option would be to contact the seller ahead of time and explain your situation. I believe a seller can make an exception for a specific buyer in a situation like that. Funny that he won't ship to the US as I've bought a book from the UK before on Ebay and it arrived without issue. I don't think there are any real restrictions on sending them internationally like there are for plants.
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Yeah, I was in the heat of the moment when I made the post. You make a very good point. I guess if I had not waited to the last minute to place the bid, then I'd have learned earlier, but then again, ebay is all about the last minute.

Well someone here on the forum saw my frustration who has a copy they want to trade with another book. So it might all work out in the end after all. With the addition of me learning something!
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As a consolation you can probably read it here Daiv:-

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62964931/John ... 4%961-1996" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And here's the Copiapoa book for Sharpy, but the PDF is a very slow download with me I cant get the link to work when I paste it in here but if you Google for "Copiapoa (Cactus File, 1998)(85s).pdf" you may find the link.
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Thanks for those links Dave! And sorry about your Ebay luck Daiv :(
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I just tried pasting in "Copiapoa (Cactus File, 1998)(85s).pdf" to Google Sharpy and it does find the link, but it is a very slow download, a bit like waiting for Christmas since it takes a few minutes before anything appears. You could then save it to your hard disk for quick use in future.
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Got it yesterday! May be my connection, but it DLed in about 30 seconds :D

This is my first "cactus" book, and after reading a good bit of it, I know see the value in these! Once again everything for me goes back to when I had reptiles. This is just like them. Research the habitat and environmental conditions of origin, and have a MUCH better idea of how to treat them and keep them happy.

After I finish reading this I want to start a discussion concerning the growing season and watering season. This book reinforces something I had read during some googling on Copiapoa, and they really seem to get the most moisture during the winter months instead of the summer months. There has been some talk of weather or not we have altered the natural growth cycle in cultivation.

Will get better educated before I can form a solid base for said discussion.

Thanks a ton for that link Dave :)

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A lot of the Copiapoa's in Chile are mist climate plants, receiving their water from the Camanchaca, which is like a coastal fog that rolls in from the cold ocean, but really it's low cloud rather than fog. See the video how it forms:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHNQP2ahju4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A Roger Ferryman picture of the Camanchaca rolling in:-
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You may be interested in these video's Doug:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFNXt5ovpwc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/results?hl=en&gs ... a=N&tab=w1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also for general Chilean cactus lovers:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Fb75JDpGU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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There's also articles on Copiapoa's in "Cactus Explorer 6", the online free to download journal on pages 37 and 52:-

http://www.cactusexplorers.org.uk/journal6.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Excelent links as always Dave! Thank you very much.
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Finally got Copiapoa 2006 back in stock- http://www.exoticplantbooks.com/detail/?product_id=412" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Thanks for the update Daiv, will try to get it ordered soon.
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Very late to the party on this thread, I know, but my preference would definitely be Copiapoa 2006 (nice pic of my friend Anne Shein in the back, and a short article on her, standing in front of her A-grade table with the "clumps". Man what she was gracious enough to sell me from there!) In general the photos, descriptions and species background make it a must have.
Copiapoa Handbook is great as well, though breif. I accidentally threw one copy into the recycling bin stacked between newspapers from the bedside table, and had to order a replacement from Australia! Wouldn't hesitate to seek it out again if I had to.
Copiapoa in their Environment just made me sad. I returned it to the seller after looking it over once. Quite amazing survey of survival in lands where nothing should grow so it has merit, but too many pictures of dead plants.
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Regarding stupid second-hand book prices online, this was brought up on the British BCSS site:-

http://www.bcss.org.uk/foruma/viewtopic ... 1&t=160932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The signed versus un-signed value added question is always uncertain. A straight autograph by the writer may often be more valuable than a dedicated one unless the person it's dedicated to is well known and respected in that field themselves. I have Ritter's Kakteen in SudAmerika signed by him to me, but probably they would be far more marketable if he had left my name off. It's a bit like buying antique silver with somebodies coat of arms or monogram engraved on them rather than left blank for your own, it depends whose coat of arms or monogram it is whether it increases or decreases it's value. :lol:

If you still want one there are some copies of Graham's Copiapoa book here:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin ... ition=used" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOOK-Copiapoa ... 3387a4d6c3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.exoticplantbooks.com/detail/?product_id=86" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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