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Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:26 am
by Cereusly
. . . Astrophytum asterias and Leuchtenbergia principis yesterday . . . hopefully it was successful. Cereusly, Tony

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:35 am
by CactusFanDan
I've seen Astrobergias before, so it must be possible. :) Let's hope it's successful! :D

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:49 pm
by gemhunter178
I never knew that was possible! That's going to be quite a hybrid!

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:12 pm
by majcka
CactusFanDan wrote:I've seen Astrobergias before, so it must be possible. :) Let's hope it's successful! :D
So are Ferobergia,Thelobergia, Ariobergia. Will you try that aswell? :-k

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:17 pm
by Cereusly
If they bloom at the same time . . . I'll give it a try. :)

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:38 pm
by majcka
Cereusly wrote:. . . Astrophytum asterias and Leuchtenbergia principis yesterday . . . hopefully it was successful. Cereusly, Tony
When the result will be clear. let me know who the mother is.

Just today I found out my little experiment of artificial pollination was successful. A proud mother Astrophytum capricorne var. senile gave birth to multiples. A proud father is Astrophytum capricorne var. crassispinum nudum.

It's nothing like cross pollination in your case, but it was my first attempt.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:57 pm
by Tony
Would love to get me hands on some of that seed if it works.
My leuchtys and astros are all growing right next to each other, but are not cooperating. :?

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:02 pm
by Cereusly
Tony, if this happens I'll send you some seeds. Cereusly! :)

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:09 pm
by Saxicola
I didn't realize you could cross those genera. Learned something new today! This gives me an interesting idea. Leuchtenbergia X Astrophytum caput-medusae! The hard part is finding that Astrophytum.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:17 pm
by Cereusly
Saxicola, now that would be an interesting cross. :)

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:27 am
by Peterthecactusguy
wow that would be pretty interesting.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:50 am
by Sweetvrob
Hello,,
I was curious if any of you knew what other plant I’d be able to cross pollinate with Leuchtenbergia principis??
I have one in flower now..
I have a picture of it but I am unable to size it down from my phone..

Thank you I’m advance.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:30 am
by greenknight
Sweetvrob wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:50 am Hello,,
I was curious if any of you knew what other plantation be able to cross pollinate with Leuchtenbergia principis??
I have one in flower now..
I have a picture of it but I am unable to size it down from my phone..

Thank you I’m advance.
Ferocactus ssp. for sure, there are some very cool-looking Ferobergias.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:07 pm
by Tom in Tucson
Besides the species mentioned above, I only know of 1 other: Hamatocactus hamatacanthus. As a matter of fact, it's my only Leuchtenbergia hybrid.

Re: Cross pollinated . . .

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:24 am
by DaveW
You only know if you have a successful cross if you raise the seedlings to find out. Things that can occur for the plant to set seed are cross pollination from any related specie in the collection if the plant has not been isolated before it flowered, known as "open pollination" by flies etc. The species also may be self fertile and produce true seed anyway. Some that are self sterile can sometimes be induced to self fertilise from their own pollen by using non-related foreign pollen to stimulate the stigma lobes.

Setting fruit or viable seed is therefore on its own not a sign you have produced a successful hybrid. Therefore until you see the results from raising the seedlings you never know if you have achiever the result you intended. Also what do you consider a success in breeding something new that is worthwhile?

For instance Rose growers raise thousands of seeds each year to produce something really new or desirable, throwing most of the resulting plants away as not outstanding enough to be commercial. The same with the Japanese with their Astrophytum hybrids. Many nondescript hybrids go in the bin as nothing really new until they eventually raise one that is.

Anyway you may get something worthwhile first time, but the chances increase with the number of seedlings raised. It will be interesting to see what you get. Best of luck.

See:-

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https://www.fcbs.org/articles/interpreting.htm