Lophophora williamsii

Andras · Post by **Andras** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:38 pm

Has anyone ever seen a Lophophora williamsii flower like this? I bought this specimen as a 'grown from original Mexican seed from the wild' -without exact field data.

A common L. williamsii flower looks like this (at least here, in the European collections):

iann · Post by **iann** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:15 pm

Stripes are normal on L. williamsii flowers but yours are very striking. I think the small newly opened flower is also intensifying the colours. Some forms of Lophophora are known for stronger stripes on darker flowers, L. decipiens for example.

Echinopsis · Post by **Echinopsis** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:24 am

Hello!

I was a long time away, but now I`m back again.
The stripes are normal, I`m also collecting Lophophora`s since 3 years, they are really wonderful plants!

Wishes!
Echinopsis

Gardener · Post by **Gardener** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:13 pm

Welcome! Nice Lophs! Suppose the big ones are a bit older than 3 years

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king_hedes · Post by **king_hedes** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:47 am

nice collection i just seen wild one in south texas there quite a few down there a buddy of mine seen one that as big as a cd in the wild the flowers looked like that one maybe not as strong stripes i cant remember next time ill take sum pictures i wish they were leagal to posses here or at least the seeds
you dont look for the loph you let it find you

Andras · Post by **Andras** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:04 pm

I don't understand why the US law is so strict concerning peyote. Cultivated specimens supposed to contain much less alkaloid, than plants in natural habitats, that's why they're inadequate for use as a drug (supposed, but it'd worth an authoritative chemical study).

hoven5th · Post by **hoven5th** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:10 am

Andras wrote: they're inadequate for use as a drug

I don't think this is true. Specialized nurseries are liscesed breed L. williamsii to sell to Native Ameircan churches specifically for this reason. There's also a huge internet market for the plant, and I don't think its exclusively for collectors

king_hedes · Post by **king_hedes** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:56 am

theres areas in Texas and new Mexico were they grow it for the Indian church but all the ones i seen pictures of were outside in there natural habitat i know some pick it from the wild too
but i know there are others that are grown in green houses and stuff

there how you can grow payote leagaly in the us but only in 5 states to bad texas isn't

http://www.peyoteway.org/cultivation.php

Andras · Post by **Andras** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:00 pm

WOW

I was misguided then... I heard it from European collectors, but neither they, nor I have "tested" it. Maybe they say this to throw off "shamans", who usually look for peyote in their nurseries.

iann · Post by **iann** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:20 pm

Its amazing how much misinformation you can get from a website which stands to make money from you

The controlled substances act allows an exemption for "nondrug use of peyote in bona fide religious ceremonies of the Native American Church". Each state is responsible for defining such exemptions and only about a dozen have them. For example, in Texas you have to be an actual member of the Native American Church and you have to be of native American descent.

The exmeptions apply to use but not to cultivation. Cultivation of Lophophora williamsii for such "non-drug" religious uses requires a permit from the DEA.

eekawill · Post by **eekawill** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:05 am

Any one know a good place to get them from online i would love some of these!!!!

Post by **daiv** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:53 pm

Do not by them because they are illegal to grow in the U.S. There are lots of people selling them on e-bay and they use different names like Ariocarpus or Anhalonium, etc....

Saguaro123 · Post by **Saguaro123** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:00 am

eekawill wrote:Any one know a good place to get them from online i would love some of these!!!!

You'll know when you find one.

fracture · Post by **fracture** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:54 am

It has a odd appearance compared to others,skin texture and flower!
feel special!

CACTUSCOOL · Post by **CACTUSCOOL** » Tue May 11, 2010 12:01 am

Hey: I havent had any experience growing lophophora w, all though i have just gotten too plants from a friend, {one has a pup already}
your plants look great,