Eriosyce napina flowers

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Eriosyce napina flowers

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I ve 2 Eriosyce napina, but they have different flower colors. Considering their flowers can we get a field number ?

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Nice orange tinges on that second one very nice.
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Flower colour can differ within the same population, or even batch of seed from a single fruit due to dominant or recessive genes, therefore flower colour alone would not mean they have different field numbers. You will note even the stigma colour is different, therefore depending whether they came from collected seed you can never be certain the seed was not hybridised.

I grew some E. napina's fron seed labelled "rose flower", they all came out normal yellow. I don't have any pictures of E. napina but here are two of my E. esmeraldana's:-
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Again note difference in stigma colour.

See my post on E. chilensis flower variation in habitat:-

http://www.cactiguide.com/forum/viewtop ... =3&t=37199" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I have several Eriosyce occulta that all different flower colors

and, they have different fragrances as well, some have no smell, some have a sweet lemony smell.
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DaveW wrote:Flower colour can differ within the same population, or even batch of seed from a single fruit due to dominant or recessive genes, therefore flower colour alone would not mean they have different field numbers. You will note even the stigma colour is different, therefore depending whether they came from collected seed you can never be certain the seed was not hybridised.

I grew some E. napina's fron seed labelled "rose flower", they all came out normal yellow. I don't have any pictures of E. napina but here are two of my E. esmeraldana's:-
esmeraldana-AWC-454.jpg
esmeraldana-FK-795.jpg
Again note difference in stigma colour.

See my post on E. chilensis flower variation in habitat:-

http://www.cactiguide.com/forum/viewtop ... =3&t=37199" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks DaveW and C and D for your answers.

I bought both plants, didnt grow them from seed, so i think it's impossible to learn the field number.
This is quite strange that they have different flower colors even in their habitat. What could it be the reason of this ?

How big is your esmeraldana pot DaveW?

Here is my Eriosyce esmeraldana FK795 seedlings. (from Succseed)
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About a 4" pot I think. The brownish spined FK795 is the readily clumping smaller headed coastal form of E. esmeraldana from what I am told. The larger headed black spined form grows further inland I believe:-

http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/ERIOSY ... aldana.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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