Echinocereus apachensis

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Echinocereus apachensis

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Fish Creek pics. Spines are extremly variable.
Picks are a bit heavy even with 50% quality loss - too many details
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The flower
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The soil. pH 8.0-8.2
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Wow, nice! :thumbright: Great to see in habitat too!
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I'm awestruck; those are lovely. I wonder what the characters are that separate apachensis from engelmannii? The only reference I have is Anderson and it's hard to tell by comparing the descriptions.

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It is fasciculatus, or boyse-thompsony, really. More ribs and softer spines, different flower then engelmannii. New name for the old lant, by Blum and Co. Cannot find that work anywhere - would love to see what that avalnche of "new discoveries" is based on
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They seem to be a bit more conehead shaped than engelmanni that has more of a blunt round top.

Very nice pics vlani!
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OK, I'll take a dozen of them :lol:

Great pictures vlani, love those spines :D
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BTW peter these plants are at your dorstep - an hour+ drive. We will expect tons of flowers pics from you next spring :)
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Yes, I was hoping to get up the Apache Trail and along 60 from Superior to Miami/Globe this spring but had too many Echinomastus visits to attend to. I see the fasciculatus characters in the flower pic you posted, missed that the first time I looked at your post. I am slowly getting better at recognizing these different southern Arizona Echinocerei: engelmannii and its varieties, fasciculatus, boyce-thompsonii, bonkerae, fendleri rectispinus, polyacanthus, coccineus. I probably forgot a few. I had all the New Mexico Echinocerei down cold and then I moved. :-)

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Your slipping Peter, even i have pics of them :P

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Main gallery still does not have any Echinocereus apachensis pictures...
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I see 'em. Either Daiv is super fast or you missed them.

Great reminder for me to get up there to Fish Creek.

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I'm super fast! 8) :mrgreen:

Ha, ok actually this is just funny timing. Vlani, it just occured to me what the PM you sent me was referring to. I had asked how to list credits for these images. When the light came on in my head, I added them to the database, which happened to be nearly the same time that you noticed they were missing.

Thanks again for supplying those great shots!
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Benson considered E. apachensis to be E. boyce-thompsonii but not everyone does. Of course not everyone thinks E. boyce-thompsonii even exists!

I wish I could remember what Peter Berresford said about these the last time he visited. I don't think he had a fixed opinion of where they fitted in, so perhaps it doesn't matter.
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I think if they lumped any more of these into E. engelmanii, Peter would have a heart attack! :lol:
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