E. francoisii my favourite seedling

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E. francoisii my favourite seedling

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This on is coming along really nice. I really think it's the best francoisii I have. It's been growing faster than all the others
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They are slow growers, right? I have E. tulearensis seedlings (which looks like to be related to E. francoisii?), and they grow slow. They are six months old; one is bigger than the other, which barely bear leaves. But I like them very much. It is possible (not in that picture) to see a round caudex (?) below the leaves. Also a favourite seedling to me.
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yeah decaryi, tuelarensis and francoisii are basically related. I think I have read tulearensis as being a sub type of decaryi though. I have some seedlings of tulearensis about as big as yours, but they are not great at keeping their leaves as yours have. Do you keep it really wet? I have just tried to graft one of them since I keep losing a seedling every month or so. :(
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well, basically I keep it more to the wet side, but this is the kind of plant that never tells you that you are doing right. It is very slow growing and I’m always in doubt about how to care. Whenever the soil is dry, I water it. But when is wet, I think “ops, too wet for this plant”. And I keep going like that. When it is dry, the leaves became a little withered, so maybe it prefers not to be very dry. Mine is under shade cloths, but not heavy shade, and the potting mix is draining, but has some loam and holds water.
I read that this plant don’t like to be wet during winter. Mine was sowed in late Spring and never knew winter. Maybe the opposite to yours(?).
Note that I purchased the seeds from the Thai seller you recommended me on e-bay. Are your seedlings also from him?
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Yeah it is tricky because with seedlings they will want more water than an adult plant. I have kept them a little dry so that is maybe my problem.
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mmcavall wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:37 pm They are slow growers, right? I have E. tulearensis seedlings (which looks like to be related to E. francoisii?), and they grow slow. They are six months old; one is bigger than the other, which barely bear leaves. But I like them very much. It is possible (not in that picture) to see a round caudex (?) below the leaves. Also a favourite seedling to me.
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Still growing this mmcavall? I have some seeds of E. tulearensis I'll be sowing tonight. Using a heat mat under them.
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Denise has a bunch of E. francoisii, all kinds of different leaf forms
Some are the size of a Soccer ball
She has a bunch of other Madagascar Euphorbias
We haven't tried to pollinate and collect seeds from them for some reason

I specifically grow E. tulearensis since it's such a delightful plant
I grew them originally from seeds that Gary James gave me
Then after they were big enough to flower, I tried to get as much seed as I could so I could grow more

When I moved to the City of Orange, the plants suffered at first, and would only put out male flowers
This Fall, I noticed that they were recovered and some plants were putting out female flowers again
I recovered some seeds, but after a couple cold nights, the seed pods stopped ripening, and would not crack open.
One plant (out of 5) has only male flowers, the others have both sexes.

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Jerry, I checked out those Euphoria videos, cool
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Craig, ever hear of E. parvicyathophora? Its in one of those videos. Saw it was sold by a greenhouse in Sarasota FL, but out of stock now.
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To my surprise, Denise does have a Euphorbia parvicyathophora
I never really noticed it until now
It looks like it needs a little love and a good repotting


My other favorite of this type is Euphorbia cylindrifolia
Denise has a couple old ones
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C And D wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:22 pm To my surprise, Denise does have a Euphorbia parvicyathophora
I never really noticed it until now
It looks like it needs a little love and a good repotting


My other favorite of this type is Euphorbia cylindrifolia
Denise has a couple old ones
I have two E. cylindrifolia. Each has a different leaf form. Maybe I have a hybrid?
E. cylindrifolia ssp. tuberifera. You can see a small tuber forming.
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E. cylindrifolia. No tuber visible at all when repotted. Maybe it was a cutting?
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These are Denise's plants

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Euphorbia decaryi
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2 different Euphorbia francoisii
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jerrytheplater wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:56 pm
Still growing this mmcavall? I have some seeds of E. tulearensis I'll be sowing tonight. Using a heat mat under them.
Hi Jerry, yes, I do still growing my two E. tulearensis and they are certainly one of my favorites (at least one of them , because the other is still looking like a seedling).

But the bigger one is really cool. I think I have learned to grow it. Sun and water in summer, little to no watern and some shade, in winter.

It flowers a lot but I think is it is a male...single male...no fruits ...never.

I have repoted it just one time and I was surprised by the big caudex it has. But I burried it again, I decided to leave it alone for some more years befor expose the caudex.

Here are some pictures (sorry by the bug with the pictures, I cant fix it). Good look with your seeds!
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