IT'S A GIRL!!!

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IT'S A GIRL!!!

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got this fatso at a house clearance auction a few months ago. Although heavily corked it has just flowered, even though I didn't think it would, and its female :)
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And its going to be a very frustrated female too, unless you can find a pollen bearing male! I have several. For some reason unbeknown to me, when you grow these from seeds, there is an abundance of males, or at least that is my experience.

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I get them regularly from a wholesale grower and I find that often the sex ratio is skewed one way or the other. However, I've had an overabundance of females as often as males. Kind of frustrating when I've got buyers looking for a matched pair and the plants won't cooperate!
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How very odd that there should be such a large imbalance in batches, either on way or the other. Does the pollen keep well? Coukd a polleny brush make it through the post and still be viable do you think?
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This could be due to the growing / seed sowing conditions.
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I guess I should add that I get a roughly evenly mixed batch about as often as I get a skewed one. If you are producing them yourself then it is actually preferable to have the plants skew female as one male can pollinate a lot of females, meaning you could end up with a lot more seed than with an evenly split group.
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What is that?
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Hi it's a Euphorbia Obesa.

:)
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Onzuka wrote:And its going to be a very frustrated female too, unless you can find a pollen bearing male! I have several. For some reason unbeknown to me, when you grow these from seeds, there is an abundance of males, or at least that is my experience.
If not mistaken Euphorbia can change their sex? At least with Euphorbia bupleurifolia, is my experience.
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Onzuka wrote:For some reason unbeknown to me, when you grow these from seeds, there is an abundance of males, or at least that is my experience.
Aiko wrote:If not mistaken Euphorbia can change their sex? At least with Euphorbia bupleurifolia, is my experience.
Aiko, Is the change always the same? So always from male to female, or always from female to male?
If so, it is so-called Sequential hermaphroditism (and/or a form of sexual diphasy). That would explain the abundance of young male plants, as noted by Ozuka.
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As I said above, I've had as many batches be mostly female as mostly male, so it doesn't make sense to assume that male to female is the primary pattern. Also, Dichogamy is usually applied to plants that consistently have separate timing of male and female phases, but in the context of a single flower or in a repeatable blooming period.

I've seen some monecious E. obesa, though I couldn't say if it was a one off thing, permanent, or a transition phase.
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HairyHarry wrote:
Onzuka wrote:For some reason unbeknown to me, when you grow these from seeds, there is an abundance of males, or at least that is my experience.
Aiko wrote:If not mistaken Euphorbia can change their sex? At least with Euphorbia bupleurifolia, is my experience.
Aiko, Is the change always the same? So always from male to female, or always from female to male?
If so, it is so-called Sequential hermaphroditism (and/or a form of sexual diphasy). That would explain the abundance of young male plants, as noted by Ozuka.
I believe my plant went from male to female.
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CactusMad wrote:Hi it's a Euphorbia Obesa.

:)
Cool looking!
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Saxicola wrote:As I said above, I've had as many batches be mostly female as mostly male, so it doesn't make sense to assume that male to female is the primary pattern. Also, Dichogamy is usually applied to plants that consistently have separate timing of male and female phases, but in the context of a single flower or in a repeatable blooming period.

I've seen some monecious E. obesa, though I couldn't say if it was a one off thing, permanent, or a transition phase.
I must have read over your previous post, about the different batches, too quickly. You are right: Sequential hermaphroditism was never an option.
But I never used the word Dichogamy :), which indeed is a different thing.

I am trying to figure out what the pattern is of the transformation in Euphorbia. Been googling/reading about sex-change in plants, but can't seem to fit euphorbia in any of the categories.
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So, just to get me totally confused.....my Obesa is flowering, does it mean I have a female plant? #-o
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