Huernia ID please

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Huernia ID please

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I'm not sure even about the genus...any help on ID appreciated, thanks!

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This looks like a Huernia Schneideriana. http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCC ... neideriana

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Hi Rei thanks for replying.
I have three Huernias:
H. keniensis
H. schneideriana
and this plant you suggested to be schneideriana.

This plant is different from my schneideriana, so, at first, I did'nt agreed to your ID.
BUT, searching for schneideriana images I found pictures very similar to that plant, for example here:
http://www.succulentguide.com/cactus/?g ... neideriana

The link you sent, in fact, shows lots of different flowers and stems, all under "schneideriana" name.

Now I'm not sure about any of the IDs...

I found this name: H. aspera, which looks very close to my plant:
http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCC ... nia_aspera

Does anyone has any opinion about that?

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Taxonomy of these seems quite uncertain. However, the flowers of this one do have the dark centers characteristic of schneideriana.
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ok, thanks !
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So here is my other Huernia schneideriana. They look quite diferent, isn't it? Is this interespecific variability ?

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I think so, there are plants close to each of them on this page - http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCC ... neideriana

The next closest one is H. macrocarpa, but schneideriana looks like a better fit to me.
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yes you're right, Spence, thanks!
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There is also a lot of hybridisation within the genus, it's very risky to assign a species name to a plant of uncertain origin.
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jfabiao wrote:There is also a lot of hybridisation within the genus, it's very risky to assign a species name to a plant of uncertain origin.
good to know, JFabiao. So I can give up IDing the Huernias, just as I did with the Haworthias !
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Some species are quite distinctive, others not so much...
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There is a hybrid of Huernia schneideriana that is H.s. var. "Elvis". Like yours, it has points along the edges. And a bit darker red than the more common "Red Dragon".
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Thank you Willian!
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