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Crassula ID.
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 pm
by Tony
Anyone know this little one?
Rosetts are aprox. 1 inch (25mm)
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:15 pm
by hablu
I think it is C. capitella (maybe thirsiflora)
greets Harry
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:00 pm
by Rosemarie
Tony, I have this plant as well.
Sigh! It has given me lots of grief trying to figure out its true identity.
Many folks call it
Crassula capitella ssp. thyrsiflora (as Harry said), but there is another Crassula in much larger form -without the spots- called the same. An example would be
Crassula 'Campfire' which comes from
C. capitella. Some call one the 'large form' & the other the 'small form'.
I think it should belong in the
Crassula exilis group, similar to
Crassula exilis ssp picturata.
But, what do I know?
For the most part, though, you will find pix online like your plant named
Crassula capitella ssp. thyrsiflora.
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:12 am
by Mike
Mine from Home Depot, was labelled picturatus, seems correct to me, exilis ssp picturatus. Mike
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:27 am
by Tony
Thanks Harry, Rosemarie and mike, I am very familiar with the one of which you speak Rosemarie. I cant believe these could even be considered the same plant, these things look nothing alike.
But what do I know.
I like Crassula exilis ssp picturata
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:03 pm
by Rosemarie
Okay...back again...after some research (I think I've done before, but forgot to record
somewhere I could find!)
Awhile back I photographed these 3 plants.
Click for larger view~
The one on the right came tagged as
Crassula picturata (also had St. Andrew's Cross as a common name-which I doubt). I knew it was not
C. picturata (or
C. exilis ssp. picturata). The one in the back is
Crassula capitella ssp. thyrsiflora, as in Tony's pic. The one on the left is Crassula 'Campfire' (either
C. subacaulis or erosula cultivar). Here's what that one looks like today: (just thought I'd share)
I believe your plant and mine are
Crassula 'Pagoda Village'. Some list it as
Crassula capitella 'Pagoda Village'. It is considered a compact form of
C. capitella ssp. thyrsiflora.
Yours is definitely not
C. picturata which does not stack the same way.
See here for an example:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/succulentisima/429408165/
Hope this helps! NOW...I'm going to go write this down...and make some TAGS!
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:25 am
by Buck Hemenway
I'm away from home and don't have my Crowley book here, but I think he is fairly certain that all of these are forms of C. capitella. I have a name of v. Mini Towers on my little one. Not as cute as Tony's with the spots. Or maybe I just haven't looked close enough.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:20 am
by Mike
well, it is certainly interesting, and perhpas hard to tell without flowers. based on Rowely picturs, exilis is more mound forming, while capitella (which is very variable) is less tidy.
Here is my "picturatus' before I repotted it and almost killed it. I find I have a lot of problems repotting he Home Depot ones, they seem to go into shock swithcing from peat or whatever to some pumice. They are almost rootbound in the HD mix, maybe I shoud just cut if off. Has anyone had better luck?
I have various plants ID as capitella. Some are all red, some all green some red upper leafs and green underneath. None, other than the picturatus , are green on top, red underside of leafs. Rowley says the "the spotted leaves, usually red underneath, are a dead giveaway" for picturatus.
Rosemary, I am not as sure as you that yours isn't picturatus also. I can't see all that well, and m not familiar with Village Pagoda. But the flwoer is consistet with the flwoer of exilis in Rowley and not captitella. And it has a low habit, unlike the taller plants that are capitella.
and the campfire is bequtiful.
Here are three inflorecsnces from some of my capitella. they had pretty long inflorescenses, not short like the pictures in Rowley for exilis.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:54 am
by hablu
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:23 pm
by Tony
I do like a good campfire.
well I dont think its Crassula 'Pagoda Village' as the inflo was much longer than the one's in your image Rosemarie, it is very simular to the one in the center of mike's comparison image, I dont have a pic of it though.
I am sure that ours are exactly the same Mike consideing where it came from. Mine has been growing in the shade of a tree, so it looks a bit different.
Im still a bit unsure however, I wouldnt trust a tag from Altmans if my life depended on it!
Thanks for the link Harry, is certinly adds to my knowledge/confusion.
My plant does look like the plant in the 3rd,4th and 5th images from the end of that link.
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:45 am
by Tony
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:35 am
by hablu
Now the hard part comes: to make it a decent and compact plant again.
Harry
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:21 pm
by Tony
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:30 pm
by Buck Hemenway
I think that it's a sedum now. That doesn't look like a crassula bloom.
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:47 pm
by Tony